Fractals of Change
Fractals of Change explores the hidden patterns that shape how individuals, relationships, organizations, and societies evolve—from human psychology to leadership, organizations, and society.
Through solo reflections and conversations with thinkers, researchers, leaders, and creators, the podcast uncovers how these patterns appear across domains of life, revealing the deeper architecture behind transformation.
Each episode explores one pattern. Together, they form a larger composition about how change actually works—and how we can navigate it more skillfully.
Fractals of Change
Latest Episodes
We Are Nature
In the season's final interview episode, Mary sits down with Alexandra Bowen, founder of the Biophilic Design Community and co-creator of the Learn Biophilic Design course, to explore why the spaces we inhabit shape the people we become. Alexan...
Are You Gonna Listen?
What does it mean to truly listen — to a child, to grief, to the signs the universe leaves when we're paying attention? Writer and former biology teacher Katie Rizzo joins Mary for a conversation of rare honesty about loss, ad...
Energy
Energy is the most fundamental pattern running through every living system—and most of us are barely paying attention to it. In this solo episode, Mary Schaub traces the pattern of energy from thermodynamics and cellular biology through psychol...
Love as Infrastructure
What if the polycrisis — climate breakdown, social fragmentation, economic inequality — isn't primarily a failure of strategy, but a failure of love? Systems scientist and organizational philosopher Dr. Louis Klein joins host Mary Schaub to tra...