Fractals of Change
Fractals of Change explores the repeating patterns that shape human behavior, leadership, and organizational life. Hosted by transformation executive and coach Mary Schaub, the show blends psychology, systems thinking, and lived executive experience to examine how change really happens—inside people, teams, and entire enterprises.
Through solo reflections and conversations with thinkers, researchers, executives, and creators, the podcast uncovers the emotional, relational, and structural dynamics that influence identity, culture, and leadership.
Designed for anyone navigating transition or leading through complexity, Fractals of Change offers grounded insight into the deeper architecture of growth and transformation.
Podcasting since 2025 • 20 episodes
Fractals of Change
Latest Episodes
The Unseen: Jerome Elam (Part 2)
What happens when the victims no one talks about begin to speak?In Part 2 of this raw and revealing conversation, Mary Schaub continues her dialogue with Jerome Elam—President and CEO of the Trafficking in America Task Force,...
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Season 1
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Episode 20
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27:34
The Unbreakable: Jerome Elam (Part 1)
"They say the truth will set you free. But first, it will break you open."In this deeply moving episode, Mary speaks with Jerome Elam—USMC vet, child trafficking survivor, and CEO of America's Trafficking in Americ...
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Season 1
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Episode 19
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44:22
Audience Share: Nature
In this heartfelt follow-up to "The Well-Gardened Self," Mary reads and reflects on powerful listener stories about how nature has supported their personal transformations. From fire escape herb gardens to grief walks through the woods, these s...
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Season 1
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Episode 18
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8:45
The Well-Gardened Self
What if the key to navigating chaos isn’t more control—but more connection to nature?In this episode, Mary explores how the natural world—gardening, birdwatching, even groundhogs—can heal us, grow us, and guide us through personal, organ...
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Season 1
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Episode 17
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18:38
Rewrite Your Story: Penelope Cottrell & Ria Glenn DeMay
In this engaging conversation, Mary Schaub speaks with Penny Cottrell and Ria Glenn DeMay about their journey from working in law and education to creating the Rewrite Workshops, a platform designed to help individuals explore their personal na...
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Season 1
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Episode 16
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1:00:21